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By lm (Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 10:07:00 AM EST) (all tags)

Some where out there there universe of all Libertarians intersects with the universe of all Christians. I don't think that intersection is particularly large, but those who fall into it, or no know someone who does, may find some randomly moronic blogger's exploration of The Unchristianness of Libertarianism to be interesting. Then again, they may not.

The above is the first full salvo of my self-declared ongoing war against Libertarianism. There aren't many political philosophies I can't find some value in. On that level Libertarianism is pretty impressive.

Props go to ni for pointing me to Robert Nozick's Anarchy, State, and Utopia. As we speak, a copy is en route to me through the wonders of inter-library loans as all the copies at CUA are checked out or missing.

Speaking of CUA, their library is really fun in that the stacks are all self serve on industrial strength metal shelves with a narrow staircase with no hand rails running up and down the middle of the building.

We're gearing up to head out of town for the weekend. Tomorrow we're driving to Springfield, Ohio (well, Buck Creek State Park just outside of Springfield) for my annual family reunion. Four generations will be there. My grandmother, her seven children and their spouses, her grandchildren, some of which have spouses, and her great-grandchildren. If Grandma holds out for another five to ten years, she might live to see her great-great-granchildren. It should be a fun time. The drive there and back will not be a fun time.

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I thought this by R Mutt (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 10:24:25 AM EST

Culture11 article on virtue ethics and libertarianism was somewhat interesting.

Virtue ethics by gzt (2.00 / 0) #3 Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 06:02:36 PM EST

While I am a fan of virtue ethics, I thought it quite grating that they said the primary flaw of libertarianism is that it is grounded in utilitarianism rather than virtue ethics. They have a strong case for criticizing it based on its grounding in utilitarianism (there are billions of criticisms of utilitarianism), but virtue ethics is not popular enough to make it possible to get away with saying "rather than virtue ethics". I don't know, I hate political philosophy and hate libertarians even more, are all libertarian politics based on utilitarianism?

Damn, I hate libertarians.

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: Virtue ethics is starting to get popular by lm (2.00 / 0) #5 Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 09:35:01 AM EST

But it's a hard leap from virtue ethics guide the soul to utilitarianism sucks for guiding politics and, therefore, Libertarianism sucks doubly hard as it rejects virtue ethics with regards to politics and adapts a utilitarian outlook.
I think you could make a case for a particular type of utilitarianism as Libertarianism's core, if you define `the good' as `human freedom' then what you arrived at would be very close to Libertarianism, the state that maximizes freedom for the most number of people is the best state. But it seems to me that is not a position that most Libertarians hold except a posteriori. For the most part, Libertarians aren't consequentialists. Rather they start with human freedom and reject everything that infringes on it regardless of the consequences.
Which is kind of funny because TE's link presented a consequentialist argument of sort. First you've got one drunk peeing in the street, then others see that and figure they ought to get drunk and pee in the street and next thing you know the street is full of drunks and their pee. So the consequences of Libertarianism is a street full of pee that smells like malt liquor and no sane person would want that.
There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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narrow staircase, no hand rails ? by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #2 Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 10:36:38 AM EST

Is it ADA compatible so the spouse can use it ? Might be able to get a good lawsuit going, and have free tuition!

Most libertarians aren't religious in my experience..

: There is more than one set of stairs by lm (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 09:27:03 AM EST

And there is also more than one elevator.
Aside from which, it doesn't matter as the library is older than most of the senators and representatives that voted for the ADA. The ADA only covers new or renovated buildings.
I think you are correct that most Libertarians are not very religious. But I was writing in part as a reaction to friends and family who consider themselves both Libertarian and Christian.
There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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