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By lm (Tue May 27, 2008 at 12:23:03 PM EST) (all tags)
Nothing terribly exciting.


The NY Times has a nice story about a father and son building a Shelby Cobra replica together. It’s quick, as any 2,200-pound car with more than 300 horsepower will be.

The old gray lady also shines a spotlight on xkcd.

Over in the Wall Street Journal, Douglas Feith argues that shifting the goal posts has made victory in Iraq impossible. I'm not certain that I agree with him that the war was ever justified. Yet, I think he has a good point. One of the things that Bush '43 administration has managed to do is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After taking down the Ba'athist regime with extreme prejudice the US has made just about every mistake possible with regards to winning the peace. One of the key mistakes is redefining victory in Iraq in such a way that anything short of the creation of a stable, liberal democracy means that we've lost to the terrorists.

I busted a hearing aid today. The good news is that repairs are a flat fee. The bad news is that it's a several hundred dollar flat fee. I was about due for a visit to my friendly neighborhood audiologist anyway. My tinnitus has been more severe lately. In some ways, it's kind of groovy. It's become polytonic and set to a rhythm of sorts. In the past, it's always been a single, constant tone. The bad side is all night long, I don't if the alarm is going off or if its just the ringing in my ears. I've also noticed that even more of the edge is gone from the high range of my hearing when I don't have my hearing aids in. When I turn on the radio about all I can hear is the drums and the bass.

Yesterday was very relaxing. I went out to fly a kite with my mother and youngest daughter. After several tries, I got my kite pretty high. First I had to tie a couple small pebbles onto the butt of the kite to get it to balance right. Then I had to cut off the tails and move them to the end of the wings as the kite was unstable in the air. Once I got the modifications tweaked, I coaxed the kite so high, I ran out of string.

After the kite flying, my mother went to the store to acquire some meat products while I fired up the charcoal on the grill. Having run out of lighter fluid, I used a touch of gasoline left over from before all of my gas powered yard tools were stolen. Once the ensuing fire ball died down, the charcoal burned quite nicely. Dinner was sausages and hamburgers and hot dogs and corn on the cob and salad and fresh strawberries and Sam Adams Summer Ale and chips and guacamole and s'mores. I should build more fires.

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Media doesn't get it. by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #1 Tue May 27, 2008 at 12:44:50 PM EST
Stupid nytimes left off the over text.
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Isn't that by sasquatchan (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue May 27, 2008 at 01:14:58 PM EST
an ADA violation as well ? Blind folks'n'at.. Get your claim in, and you may win part of the lawsuit proceeds.

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I know! by dev trash (2.00 / 0) #8 Tue May 27, 2008 at 10:42:27 PM EST
dumb asses

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What's wrong with paper. twigs and sticks? by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #2 Tue May 27, 2008 at 01:02:31 PM EST
I haven't used lighter fluid in a long time, I just build a pyramid of wadded up paper, twigs and sticks.




Nothings wrong with paper, twigs and sticks by lm (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue May 27, 2008 at 01:12:24 PM EST
You can make a fine kite that way.

But starting fires is more fun with combustible fluids.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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knocking over the Iraqi army was never an issue by cam (2.00 / 0) #5 Tue May 27, 2008 at 01:15:01 PM EST
US military might is unparalleled atm. Much of the loss of legitimacy for Bush has been in his incompetence and inability to govern. The mess in Iraq is a continuance of that. I don't think 'rhetoric' would have changed that. This administration has been very skilled in media management and it has not saved them.

My personal opinion was that the war wasn't justified and could not be pacified into a new germany/japan by military means. Competent policy and governance from Bush could have put pressure on my opinion, but the mess over there has only made me think my instinct was correct.

cam
Freedom, liberty, equity and an Australian Republic


If Petraeus had led off, it may have worked by lm (4.00 / 1) #6 Tue May 27, 2008 at 02:34:56 PM EST
Most of what I've read recently suggests that Petraeus learned the correct lesson from Vietnam and is embarked on the best possible anti-insurgent strategy. The problem is that these tactics were only recently put into place (2007) and the mess we've made of it prior to then may have been so large that no corrective action may now work.

I guess my main point is that if we'd had knocked over Saddam and then gotten out of Dodge saying `we win it' and the ensuing black eye on the world stage as Iraqis were left to pick up the pieces may have been a better outcome than what we have now. The civil war that would have almost certainly obtained would have obtained eventually anyway unless Saddam had discovered a way to become effectively immortal.

In any case, not going in to start with would have been the smartest thing to do. Finishing off Afghanistan before going into Iraq would have also been the smart thing to do.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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apparently the area that he took over by cam (2.00 / 0) #7 Tue May 27, 2008 at 03:03:46 PM EST
during the invasion (Mosul?) got calmed down quickly as he used modern tactics to keep the civil population on his side. I will have to re-read that journalistic book on it. IIRC he and another guy were the only two that 'got it' and they soon got posted away anyway.

cam
Freedom, liberty, equity and an Australian Republic
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Yeah, Petraeus was over Mosul by lm (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:29:28 AM EST
From Wiki:
In Mosul, a city of nearly two million people, Petraeus and the 101st employed classic counterinsurgency methods to build security and stability, including conducting targeted kinetic operations and using force judiciously, jump-starting the economy, building local security forces, staging elections for the city council within weeks of their arrival, overseeing a program of public works, reinvigorating the political process, and launching 4,500 reconstruction projects. This apprach can be attributed to Petraeus, who had been steeped in nation-building during his previous tours in places like Bosnia and Haiti and thus approached nation-building as a central military mission and who was ``prepared to act while the civilian authority in Baghdad was still getting organized.''

All the progress Petraeus made in Mosul devolved back into the same chaos as the rest of the country as soon as Petraeus and the 101st Airborne Division were pulled out in early 2004. Some critics say that his accomplishments in Mosul throughout 2003 were overstated. Others note that the 101st was replaced by a force a quarter of its size and the CO stopped virtually all of the counter-insurgency work that defined Petraeus' tenure there.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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diesel never gas by dev trash (2.00 / 0) #9 Tue May 27, 2008 at 10:43:01 PM EST
least that's how we did it.

I heard McCain today say 'We'll never surrender' in Iraq.  I ownder how taht's gonna work out.


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McCain, I think, can probably fight a war by lm (2.00 / 0) #10 Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:22:00 AM EST
From the get-go McCain has been opposed to many (if not most) of Bush's strategic errors. There probably isn't all that much difference between them with regards to the big picture, but McCain would not have gone into Iraq with the relatively low numbers that Bush did. He would have canned Rumsfeld as soon as it became apparent that he was an incompetent nincompoop. If the Iraq war can be won at this point, McCain certainly has a better chance to get the job done than Bush.

Of course, the Iraq war may very well be unwinnable at this point. It's just that Bush not being able to win it doesn't really address whether it's winnable or not.


There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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I'm curious as to where the PNAC by wumpus (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed May 28, 2008 at 06:35:07 PM EST
ever stated they wanted to "win in Iraq". The big thing they wanted was permanent bases. This is almost politically impossible to achieve after a victory (we won! Lets keep cycling soldiers there anyway!).

Bush may have paid a higher political price than he thought, but I wouldn't say that Iraq has gone any different than exactly what his administration wanted.

Wumpus



Bush '43 Administration is not PNAC by lm (2.00 / 0) #13 Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:54:39 PM EST
They have somewhat overlapping goals, and even share some common members, but they aren't the same thing.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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Iraq by jimgon (2.00 / 0) #14 Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:39:47 AM EST
I think where things fell apart in the ability to  declare victory was in the decision to claim the  occupation as part of the war. The war was a  victory in about two weeks.  The occupation has been a miserable grind.  If the Bushites weren't such horrible shits they would  have tried to separate the two, but it's hard to keep people supporting the  troops and supporting the  occupation when you term it an occupation.  If you  keeep the war term it's harder for your critics to say lets walk away.  The Democrats  have also failed the test in playing into the war description of what's happening now.  It's not a war. It's an occupation of a foreign nation.  The terms of victory as defined by the Bushites are the terms of a successful occupation, not a successful war. 



I would agree with most of that by lm (4.00 / 1) #15 Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 03:36:46 PM EST
The vast majority of troubles over yonder stem from a failure to keep the peace after knocking over the Ba'athist regime.

There is no more degenerate kind of state than that in which the richest are supposed to be the best.
Cicero, The Republic
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